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Gladman Developments 75 houses Chilton Road

Started by Clare Durkin

Just through our doors today a predatory proposal to build 75 houses opposite Seven Acres. This is very bad news considering the other proposals in the village. Check out the plan if you haven't got the mailshot. Also look at the Daily Mail article about the company.
http://www.your-views.co.uk/longcrendon/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2846629/Developers-ruining-countryside-bankroll-farmers-seeking-permission-build-fields.html

Posted 2015-07-14 15:10:26 by Clare Durkin

That's very interesting,.. as I am sure the field along Chearsley Road was being surveyed yesterday, two men pacing and measuring the field opposite the junction on Chearsley Road, where the High Street ends,.. ( down by the church ), might have the wrong end of the stick.
But it might be our precious rural setting is about to be blighted on all sides if planners/developers get their way....

Posted 2015-07-14 15:45:51 by Mark Hamblin

This would be a disaster for the village in terms of the infrastructure.
The school is already well over-subscribed and the surgery is up to capacity.
No further development of the village should take place without an improvement to the infrastructure being put into place first - at the cost of the developers.
Furthermore, I understood that the village was earmarked for a total of 50 houses over the next few years, not 125 or more with the 2/3+ proposed sites.

Posted 2015-07-14 15:57:20 by Miranda Salwey

This would not be good for the village. The doctors, school are all struggling now to support the village people we do not need anymore.The traffic would increase around the school which would be dangerous.We need to act now to stop them,unite as a village to keep are village

Posted 2015-07-14 17:03:36 by debbie johnson

not sure the argument re overstretched infrastructure will carry much weight - the developers will simply - as "a generous concession" offer to contribute/pay for upgrades to both. Better argument, in my view would be that we stick to the 50 houses as already noted? Also the field off Harroell which Rectory Homes have also been surveying for 30/40 new homes,could easily be accessed by a new road from the industrial estate across existing land - thereby negating any arguments re traffic overload, and encroachment on the High Street/Wainwrights? Just a thought!

Posted 2015-07-15 09:59:01 by Carolyn Smyth

The site on Chilton Road is now covered in markers as they spent the day surveying it. The developers state on their website "we seek to secure planning permission quickly - think 14 months not 10 years". Can we cope with a population increase of 6-8% in 14 months?

Posted 2015-07-15 23:45:33 by Claire Rose

This not what is needed - it is affordable homes at low density that are needed (and to appropriate design standards as I think of the houses next to Crendon Motors.

When this application comes in I will make my comments to AVDC not directly to Gladman Developments - I have no wish to help them strengthen their application by forewarning them of objections.

Has anyone noticed that that their Consultation Board on their website for the proposal reads 'All public comments received during the consultation process will be considered. An outline planning application will be submitted in due course to Stroud District Council which will include a Statement of Community Involvement (SCI).
The SCI will include details of how your comments and suggestions have been considered to shape the development. The full SCI will be available on the Local Authority website once the application is submitted.
A Summary of Comments and Responses taken from the SCI will be available to view in due course.'

Spot their real knowledge of where Long Crendon is located!
I am not reassured that this will be an open Statement of Community Involvement that will be presented to the public and council if it involves 'Selected comments'

I am steering well clear of this 'offer' from the developer.

Tim Shreeve

Posted 2015-07-18 00:25:17 by Tim Shreeve

I can not let the negative responses to this proposal go unchallenged. It is about bringing 75 new homes to the village, NOT increasing the population by 75 or 150 or whatever. The people are already here - you can see them every morning, waiting for the buses that take them to their secondary schools in Thame, Aylesbury, Oxford etc..
The message being given to them is that they are not wanted in Long Crendon. The many advantages of living in here enjoyed by their parents and grandparents are not to be available to them.
If "we" do not need more homes in the village, the young people certainly do.
Our Parish Councillors and other representatives should engage with the developer positively to make sure that the houses to be built are a real asset to our community.

Posted 2015-07-19 10:19:36 by Steve Graham

I can not let the negative responses to this proposal go unchallenged. It is about bringing 75 new homes to the village, NOT increasing the population by 75 or 150 or whatever. The people are already here - you can see them every morning, waiting for the buses that take them to their secondary schools in Thame, Aylesbury, Oxford etc..
The message being given to them is that they are not wanted in Long Crendon. The many advantages of living in here enjoyed by their parents and grandparents are not to be available to them.
If "we" do not need more homes in the village, the young people certainly do.
Our Parish Councillors and other representatives should engage with the developer positively to make sure that the houses to be built are a real asset to our community.

Posted 2015-07-19 10:42:33 by Steve Graham

There are 4 proposed development sites in our village and we have to accept that we do need more housing, particularly affordable housing. So, in my opinion we need to get together and decide which is the most suitable of these sites and then support it. This will enable us to fight off the others. The Parish Council failed to nominate a site which has resulted in these speculative developers approaching farmers and offering to pay for the planning process, we can decide which site and start to actively fight the rest. As Tim has already stated, you should NOT respond to the developers as they will use your feedback to say they are addressing peoples objections, only object via AVDC and don't give the developers any information to support their application. We need a public meeting to discuss these issues. Can interested parties please contact the Parish Council in order to facilitate this.

Posted 2015-07-21 10:59:27 by mary palmer

Well said, Mary and Tim. The whole village needs to get involved in how our community grows in the future. And yes, Steve, you are right to, but surely not on this scale on that site or the other sites. We do need to grow but on a manageable scale and with the input of everyone. Of course we need young people and families here in Long Crendon; that's what makes a vibrant community.
We need to wait for the plans on all of the developments before making our objections. If that we can stall them, we have a chance to make a sustainable village plan, as put forward at last night's planning meeting. A working group is being set up to manage the process. The Parish Council are volunteers and they need help on this. Go to the next Parish council meeting. We need a true democratic response.

Posted 2015-07-21 12:11:20 by Clare Durkin

From the Parish Council.

At the Planning Committee meeting of the Parish Council on Monday evening this matter was addressed. Some 24 concerned residents attended and we heard from Mr P Rose and Ms S Holding on the views of a group of residents.

There appear to be many differing views and comments on this serious matter.

The Council resolved to form a group to address the Gladman proposal that consists of three volunteer residents and four Councillors. The group is Cllr Thurbon, Butler, Smith and soon to be co-opted onto Council Mr T Chapman with Ms S Holding, Mr P Rose and Mr M Jones.

The group will meet shortly to formulate a robust strategy.They will also include the expected proposals from Madge's on Chearsley road and Wainwrights.

Both the Council and Mr Rose have been in contact with Winslow Town Council to draw on their experience in this regard.
The Group will tackle this issue in the best interests of the residents and the village.

For those who have not seen the proposal leaflet from Gladman's I have put it on the website under latest news for your information and assistance.

Grant Stevens
Parish Clerk
23/07/2015

Posted 2015-07-23 11:34:32 by Site Administrator

Mr Stephens - please can you tell us if the group being formed comprises of representatives of the whole of Long Crendon, and not just the preservation areas?

Posted 2015-07-23 11:39:36 by Carolyn Smyth

re For those who have not seen the proposal leaflet from Gladman's I have put it on the website under latest news for your information and assistance.

Grant Stevens
Parish Clerk
23/07/2015

The link does not appear to work ??? Can you have a look to fix that please. Thankyou.

Posted 2015-07-23 12:39:10 by Greg Lismore

re For those who have not seen the proposal leaflet from Gladman's I have put it on the website under latest news for your information and assistance.

Grant Stevens
Parish Clerk
23/07/2015

The link does not appear to work ??? Can you have a look to fix that please. Thankyou.

Posted 2015-07-23 12:39:32 by Greg Lismore

The attachment was too large for my website facility and I arranged for the website manager to put the attachment on the site, which has been done.

As regards the question on representatives of the preservation area, I do not know what is meant.
There is no such area as a preservation area.
The group will, however, be representing the whole village.

Grant Stevens
Parish Clerk
24/07/2015

Posted 2015-07-24 12:50:50 by Site Administrator

Apologies for my lack of clarity! I refer, of course, to Long Crendon's Conservation area as defined on the Parish Plan. I seek merely to establish that those areas outside those defined, would appreciate representation on any group discussing proposed new housing etc. A precedent for this request was established when a group approved the skate park on Harroell without any input from the residents most affected by its construction, until after the decision was taken. Hopefully this explains my concern.

Posted 2015-07-24 14:29:32 by Carolyn Smyth

It would appear that some site surveying work has started today at Madges Farm Site.

JCB delivered at 8am,.. plus support vehicles,.. one would assume for a full-day of testing the ground on-site.

Posted 2015-08-17 09:24:45 by Mark Hamblin

The Long Crendon Surgery has seemed cramped and undersized for many years - compare it to the Surgery at Brill. It seems to me that the arrival of extra "customers" in the village would boost the income of Trinity Health and help the business case for a new, expanded facility for our village. Any capital contribution from the developers that can be negotiated would also be helpful.

Posted 2015-08-17 10:29:43 by Steve Graham

Long Crendon has started to develop its own Neighbourhood Plan which will decide, democratically, where the expansion of Long Crendon should best take place. I fully support that process but we need to buy time for it by getting this initial application from Gladman rejected. They will undoubtedly go to appeal (they are a very professional business and this is how they make their money) but that process will take time. We can use that time to develop the Neighbourhood Plan - we don't need predatory developers from Cheshire deciding these local matters for us!

Beware - hidden away in the small print of the Gladman application is that, officially, the Gladman application is 'all matters reserved except for access'. This little phrase means that they are seeking outline planning permission for 75 dwellings on that plot with access from Chilton Road - all other content of the application can be changed later. Do not be taken in by the pretty artist's impressions - these are probably identical to ones on some of the other 102 applications that Gladman has on the go all around the country. Cheshire-based Gladman is a middle man who will sell the plot on if outline permission is ever granted - they will take their profit and run. Any developer who buys the plot can minimise or do away with the trees, the green areas and the lake etc. Please tell everyone you talk to about this little gem!

Posted 2015-08-18 12:55:18 by Andy Hamment

The Madges Farm application has gone in now and it is also primarily to get the access approved. It is for outline planning.
Once the access is approved it would be a small step to run the road for the entire lenght of this side of the village. All owned by the same family.



Posted 2015-08-18 13:51:39 by Tom Elson

I see that the outline planning application for Madges Farm development on Chearsley Road include specifically a proposal for a new GP Surgery and public use building - this sounds like it has the potential to be good news for the village. As the village already extends along the Chearsley Road all the way to Notley Farm the proposal starts to look rather modest in contrast to the current additional proposals at 80 Chilton Road. There seem to be issues being raised by residents on the planning application relating to lack of enforcement of traffic laws (parking outside schools and speeding in 30mph zones). Perhaps our police force can do something to address the issues as this is not a planning matter rather a breaking the law matter.It will also be interesting to see the actual planning application for the field at Wainwrights when it eventually appears. There is a desperate lack of market housing available at prices which are less that 10 to 15 times peoples incomes and we need to make sure that Long Crendon supports its current and future population by building something other than another set of million pound houses which local incomes cannot support. Mixed use and mixed styles and mixed prices seem to be a sensible way forward for homes in our village.

Posted 2015-08-24 18:32:28 by Greg Lismore

Don't be fooled by the pretty pictures on the Madges Farm application, Mr Lismore. The GP surgery, 'public use building' and play area are a flight of fancy. The application is for outline permission with all matters reserved. Once site access is approved the developer can tear up the proposal and start again.

Posted 2015-08-25 09:01:09 by Thomas Moore

Interestingly, the sugery knows absolutely nothing about the proposed new surgery on the Madges Farm site so who is paying for it? Are the developers just going to plonk it there and hope it attracts some nice doctors looking for a place to practice? Or, as is the usual ploy, they put it in the plans because it looks good!! All of these developers know every trick in the book and we need to pick very carefully through the applications to find out the reality of what is being proposed in our village. A new surgery can only happen if our surgery is involved and wants to move there so how come nobody asked them?

Posted 2015-08-25 11:30:52 by mary palmer

Interestingly, the sugery knows absolutely nothing about the proposed new surgery on the Madges Farm site so who is paying for it? Are the developers just going to plonk it there and hope it attracts some nice doctors looking for a place to practice? Or, as is the usual ploy, they put it in the plans because it looks good!! All of these developers know every trick in the book and we need to pick very carefully through the applications to find out the reality of what is being proposed in our village. A new surgery can only happen if our surgery is involved and wants to move there so how come nobody asked them?

Posted 2015-08-25 11:31:17 by mary palmer

I expect that there will be many comments about housing developments in the coming months. Has any consideration been given to creating a separate heading under 'Interact'?
I am hoping to buy a house in Long Crendon. As a recent returnee (My father was farming Wood Farm when I was born and I later joined the RAF), although I like Long Crendon, there are some aspects that disappoint me greatly: grossly out of date village surveys and plans (now being hurriedly corrected), the pitiful catchment area for the primary school and anonymous letters complaining about future possible house construction.
Regarding the latter, those blindly saying 'no' are wasting their energy. What we should be doing is negotiating, doing our utmost to force AVDC and developers to give us what we want, including improved infrastructure. An example of what we don't want is on Bicester Road just past the garage - £million mansions. Which idiot approved that little development? If we do not present positive recommendations, we will end up with Long Crendon surrounded by houses that nobody living here, and certainly not those of the generation about to start work, will be able to afford. People who have grown up here deserve the opportunity to live here.
Furthermore, it is silly to treat all builders as the same. Rectory Homes has a number of ongoing developments in the local area, which I have been to inspect. It is a firm that meets with my approval. I was tempted to buy one of its properties in Thame but I will now wait to see what happens in Long Crendon.

Posted 2015-11-08 15:14:40 by David Arthur Diprose

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